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	<title>Comments on: The sad state of Mac OS X Photo Management Software</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.hackerdude.com/2005/12/10/the-sad-state-of-mac-os-x-photo-management-software/comment-page-1/#comment-98226</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long time Linux user (11 years) and a new Mac user, I totally agree. Albeit my Mac is pretty ancient (G4 DA), but it actually works great. My beef is with iPhoto 06&#039;s interface - no easy way to import because it dumps everything into a single &quot;root&quot; album. When you drag stuff into your own albums, it&#039;s hard to tell what you have dragged and what you haven&#039;t. I even tried Kodak&#039;s Easyshare and IT was better than iPhoto, but the inline viewer sucked. JetPhoto is really nice, but has no &quot;macro&quot; view - you can only view one album at a time. I loved Picasa on my Linux box, but as mentioned earlier, why do multimedia management on another platform when it is supposed to be Mac&#039;s specialty. I&#039;ll have to organize in Finder until I can afford a new Intel mac and then I can use Picasa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time Linux user (11 years) and a new Mac user, I totally agree. Albeit my Mac is pretty ancient (G4 DA), but it actually works great. My beef is with iPhoto 06&#8242;s interface &#8211; no easy way to import because it dumps everything into a single &#8220;root&#8221; album. When you drag stuff into your own albums, it&#8217;s hard to tell what you have dragged and what you haven&#8217;t. I even tried Kodak&#8217;s Easyshare and IT was better than iPhoto, but the inline viewer sucked. JetPhoto is really nice, but has no &#8220;macro&#8221; view &#8211; you can only view one album at a time. I loved Picasa on my Linux box, but as mentioned earlier, why do multimedia management on another platform when it is supposed to be Mac&#8217;s specialty. I&#8217;ll have to organize in Finder until I can afford a new Intel mac and then I can use Picasa.</p>
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		<title>By: Rueka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rueka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, iphoto is crap.  I&#039;m using an old 450mgz Cube and have 800mb of ram and it is like plowing a deep field with a sick mule.  I actually find it easier to just store all my photos in about a dozen organized folders and view them in Preview. If the folder size isn&#039;t to big then the speed is fine. I edit everything with adobe photoshop or Image Tricks (freeware) and link the folders I want on my screensaver through a maze of alieses tied to one folder.  It is an ungainly system but I find it gives me complete control of my images and actually works a lot faster than iphoto if. I can&#039;t belive there is no functional photo app for Mac that doesn&#039;t cost a fortune.  Itunes works great and deals with larger files and macjournel wonderfully organizes many gigs worth of documents (with photos) I am sure this can be done. If iphoto simply did not load every single file but narrowed itself to the folder you wanted to see this would save a lot of time and ram. Where are the options?  Where are the useful preferences?  For now I leave it nested and hibernating in the back of my applications folder waiting for something to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, iphoto is crap.  I&#8217;m using an old 450mgz Cube and have 800mb of ram and it is like plowing a deep field with a sick mule.  I actually find it easier to just store all my photos in about a dozen organized folders and view them in Preview. If the folder size isn&#8217;t to big then the speed is fine. I edit everything with adobe photoshop or Image Tricks (freeware) and link the folders I want on my screensaver through a maze of alieses tied to one folder.  It is an ungainly system but I find it gives me complete control of my images and actually works a lot faster than iphoto if. I can&#8217;t belive there is no functional photo app for Mac that doesn&#8217;t cost a fortune.  Itunes works great and deals with larger files and macjournel wonderfully organizes many gigs worth of documents (with photos) I am sure this can be done. If iphoto simply did not load every single file but narrowed itself to the folder you wanted to see this would save a lot of time and ram. Where are the options?  Where are the useful preferences?  For now I leave it nested and hibernating in the back of my applications folder waiting for something to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, i agree, iphoto sucks. i even have iphoto 6, and it still sucks. picasa on the mac would be so perfect. as it is now, i use my pc for exactly one thing. photo management. as media centric as os x is, one would think photos would be no problem. sadly, this is not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i agree, iphoto sucks. i even have iphoto 6, and it still sucks. picasa on the mac would be so perfect. as it is now, i use my pc for exactly one thing. photo management. as media centric as os x is, one would think photos would be no problem. sadly, this is not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Hackerdude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hackerdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just basic scrolling is a pain. It&#039;s a bit better now that I have 1Gb RAM, but just running top on a terminal while navigating my library revealed 3.0GB RAM utilization when simply scrolling down my library. Coming from Picasa, which is extremely fast even on older PCs, it was really a shock.

Now that I have some RAM I&#039;m willing to try it again, but the memory consumption still worries me.

Supposedly the iPhoto on iLife 06 &quot;scrolls like butter&quot;. Maybe when I get my intel mac.. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just basic scrolling is a pain. It&#8217;s a bit better now that I have 1Gb RAM, but just running top on a terminal while navigating my library revealed 3.0GB RAM utilization when simply scrolling down my library. Coming from Picasa, which is extremely fast even on older PCs, it was really a shock.</p>
<p>Now that I have some RAM I&#8217;m willing to try it again, but the memory consumption still worries me.</p>
<p>Supposedly the iPhoto on iLife 06 &#8220;scrolls like butter&#8221;. Maybe when I get my intel mac.. <img src='http://www.hackerdude.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have a magic copy of iPhoto. It&#039;s fast enough, does 80% of what I want (which is 75% more than I had before), and is free...what am I missing?

I should add that I also use the &quot;Keyword assistant&quot; plug in because it&#039;s way, way better UI for updating keywords:

http://homepage.mac.com/kenferry/software.html

and &quot;Galerie&quot; for creating web output:

http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/galerie.htm

Both are still free though. The only things I want it to do are have a bit better basic correction tools in it&#039;s internal editor, ability to batch correct photos, and it would be dang nice if the text dialog box would actually have the window focus after hitting command-shift-b after selecting a bunch of photos to add a title to. I only have about 7GB/3500 photos currently...don&#039;t know how it scales, but supposedly iPhoto 6 takes care of that.

What operation/operations are people doing with iPhoto that suck so bad that I&#039;m missing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have a magic copy of iPhoto. It&#8217;s fast enough, does 80% of what I want (which is 75% more than I had before), and is free&#8230;what am I missing?</p>
<p>I should add that I also use the &#8220;Keyword assistant&#8221; plug in because it&#8217;s way, way better UI for updating keywords:</p>
<p><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kenferry/software.html" rel="nofollow">http://homepage.mac.com/kenferry/software.html</a></p>
<p>and &#8220;Galerie&#8221; for creating web output:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/galerie.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/galerie.htm</a></p>
<p>Both are still free though. The only things I want it to do are have a bit better basic correction tools in it&#8217;s internal editor, ability to batch correct photos, and it would be dang nice if the text dialog box would actually have the window focus after hitting command-shift-b after selecting a bunch of photos to add a title to. I only have about 7GB/3500 photos currently&#8230;don&#8217;t know how it scales, but supposedly iPhoto 6 takes care of that.</p>
<p>What operation/operations are people doing with iPhoto that suck so bad that I&#8217;m missing?</p>
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		<title>By: neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, iPhoto is a joke.

I&#039;ve been using Adobe&#039;s Lightroom a lot recently.  It&#039;s really, really nice.  I used to have a set of bash scripts that helped me with my photos when I lived in Linux-land, and Lightroom is nearly as sensible as my blue-sky bash scripts were.

Lightroom is clearly designed as a lightweight photo editor with a heavy bias towards RAW, but that&#039;s exactly how I use it.  The current version is missing some features, but I don&#039;t miss them (I think you can hook up external editors, but I&#039;m not sure how that work with RAW photos... would it rasterize the current photo and export that?  that would not be cool.  I haven&#039;t played with external editors at all.  I guess I&#039;m just the most awesome photographer on the planet :).

And, you don&#039;t need to use your mouse.  Ever.

I have no idea how much it will cost when it goes 1.0, but probably a couple hundred bucks.  I&#039;m about to import all my photos into lightroom and use that as my main tool.  We&#039;ll see how it handles 100GB of photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, iPhoto is a joke.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Adobe&#8217;s Lightroom a lot recently.  It&#8217;s really, really nice.  I used to have a set of bash scripts that helped me with my photos when I lived in Linux-land, and Lightroom is nearly as sensible as my blue-sky bash scripts were.</p>
<p>Lightroom is clearly designed as a lightweight photo editor with a heavy bias towards RAW, but that&#8217;s exactly how I use it.  The current version is missing some features, but I don&#8217;t miss them (I think you can hook up external editors, but I&#8217;m not sure how that work with RAW photos&#8230; would it rasterize the current photo and export that?  that would not be cool.  I haven&#8217;t played with external editors at all.  I guess I&#8217;m just the most awesome photographer on the planet <img src='http://www.hackerdude.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>And, you don&#8217;t need to use your mouse.  Ever.</p>
<p>I have no idea how much it will cost when it goes 1.0, but probably a couple hundred bucks.  I&#8217;m about to import all my photos into lightroom and use that as my main tool.  We&#8217;ll see how it handles 100GB of photos.</p>
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